Challenging Goliath Avacon OSCC 2018


3:39hello everyone and welcome to the 5 o’clock to 6 o’clock session of the 2018

3:44open simulator community conference as a reminder to our in world and web

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4:06we are happy to introduce a terrific session called challenging Goliath bringing virtual reality into higher

4:13education our speakers today are se Lee Davis Cheryl Moore Eileen O’Connor and Albert

4:21Ando dr. Eileen O’Conner and Elaine who was unable to be with us today our

4:28associate professors at SUNY Empire State College and they’re working in learning and emerging technologies with

4:35the Master of Arts in learning and emerging technologies program called mallet sailing davis has been an

4:42educator for 20 years working with homeschooled children private schools and special needs she has degrees in

4:48creative marketing and media communications Sheryl Moore is a master’s candidate and learning and

4:55merging technologies at mallet from Empire State College Moore is employed

5:00as a financial educator at se FCU a New York State credit union and where she

5:07works with individuals served by nonprofit organizations schools and credit union members al rotundo has

5:16written produced and directed hundreds of corporate video presentations and has taught video production techniques at

5:22associations conventions trade shows and through podcasts always embracing the

5:29entrepreneurial spirit of his work he pioneered the production of one of the first podcasts for the video production

5:36industry while producing broadcast and corporate TV and earning a learning and

5:41emerging technology master’s at Empire State College the three speakers of

5:49let’s see and now I want to say welcome all let’s begin the session okay well

5:59thank you very much everybody for staying here this late or early evening for all of you

6:05we’re here from Empire State College which is part of the State University of New York and just a little background on

6:13us we’re a rather unique SUNY school and that we pretty much serve adults so we

6:19have a very interesting population the school started in the 1970s we have

6:25almost 20,000 students but we’re distributed across New York State so

6:30what you’re going to hear from these students and myself I’m Eileen and I’m

6:36one of the instructors is how we create community within an online network and

6:42so remember these students have never met each other physically they think

6:50I’ve met a couple of them physically but really we are we know each other from a distance and so tonight we’re gonna be

6:57looking at a little bit of the history of how Empire State College got into this and then we will look and see how

7:06some of the instructors that are here tonight and I’m going to be representing my colleague dr. Nicola Ilan she has she

7:15and I have been pioneers in this for over 10 years and then we’re going to look at what we’re doing today and then

7:22in the middle we’re going to actually see what some of our illustrious students have done and then we’ll wrap

7:27it up by looking at some of the things we’re doing presently so what I do want

7:35to point out and I think a lot of people have brought this in before what online

7:41courses can be somewhat isolating and we’ve been able to use the virtual

7:46reality over the past 10 years as a way to create a sense of community you all

7:51know a sense of presence you’re we’ve been able to do shared development which

7:57is one of the things that you’re going to see here how we supported each other and developing things but we find that we can encourage

8:05creativity and immersive medias but we’re also challenged it takes a while

8:11for people to learn how to get into these environments and we tend to be very much our own self supporters we

8:18don’t have a lot of institutional support coming in and giving us the help so that would be the things we would

8:24like but undaunted to go back a little

8:29bit through our history Empire State College headquarters and it’s in 40

8:35locations around the state but it’s headquartered out of Saratoga New York which is a Starkel town what you see up

8:41here is the Alumni house when funding came through a grant which Nicola could

8:48have talked more about but in the mid-2000s funding came and the original

8:53buildings were designed by artists made it look kind of like our actual alumni

9:01house what we did initially was work through Second Life and here is one of

9:10the meetings that Nicola herself was at she’s there with the long hair in the red dress she actually makes avatars so

9:19what happened to was Nicola was able to take that concept of kind of going back

9:27in history and she developed a course over ten years ago called the future

9:33being human a very interesting futuristic course and she the storyline

9:39was she brought them into the bottom of this ancient building and then when the

9:45students came in they became teleported in through an avatar system into another

9:52reality so she really was getting people to start thinking about the concept of

9:59being human but also where are humans going with these virtual spaces and

10:05virtual environments so in that process she gave here some of the assignments

10:12that she had they went through this experience they went into their online courses and they wrote using this mist right from

10:19her notes some of the expectations within the course and started to think about how humans would start working in

10:27these environments and but at the same point while she was doing that

10:33futuristic work the artists that were funded initially were developing tech

10:40similes I don’t know if you can see to the left that was something we had on our original Second Life Island which

10:46was a replica of one of the buildings the historical buildings right near our campus so their initial II we did have

10:55that type of funding the other thing we also had back in around 2007 when I got

11:03involved was there was some grant funding that allowed me to get a private island and I don’t if you remember you

11:11couldn’t bring young people onto Second Life they had I forget the name teen

11:16Island but I got actually a private island and back then we did have some

11:23support from the college we did have some of our tech people would help us with if we had a meeting they would help

11:32people with their microphones and some of those supports that you wish you had but when I went and worked with this

11:39grant I worked with middle school students very different environment they had no problem with the environment the

11:46problem was more keeping them focused and so I learned a lot from that and one of the things I’ve always done is tried

11:52to publish my work more as what you call action research I haven’t had the time

11:58of the funding to do research much outside of my classroom so this was a publication that I created or about ten

12:06years ago bringing this to some of the teacher education conferences and what

12:12Nicola and I did the other faculty member we tried to bring this beyond our

12:19immediate students and at that point I was in the science education program and

12:24so what we started to do was our own rude effort to get other faculty

12:30involved to get instructional designers involved this little website that you see a screen capture of was some of the

12:38work that we assembled we had monthly meetings and we we were able to maintain

12:45funding for Second Life for a while simultaneously the college and myself

12:51and it’s a part of that we started a master’s program in learning and

12:57emerging technology you’re going to meet some of our illustrious students shortly and along with that it became cost

13:05prohibitive to stay in Second Life Nicola and I we really had to be our own

13:10support and along with the wonderful ability to now get islands and artifacts

13:17that we could use from others we were able to kind of move out on our own and so what we did when the program started

13:27we were still at that point in Second Life using some of the materials that were created by different artists so

13:34this was a building that Nicola had commissioned and this is just one of our

13:39early preparatory meetings in our new master’s program what we have since done

13:46and this is the work you’re going to be learning about shortly was developed a

13:51course where students themselves create Islands and we’ve been very happy with

13:58Kitely Kitely has given us the ability to have islands that are affordable students come in we’ve had over 30

14:05students now develop their own islands to suit their own needs some of them become becomes part of their final

14:12thesis and what I did in the process was create a number of online tutorials way

14:19back in my past history I’d been a technical writer for IBM so I I have that kind of technical writing

14:25background I have a lot of materials that it would be glad to share with anybody they’re open source on how to

14:31create Kitely islands which just gives us the benefit of a wonderful server

14:36along with firestorm and the very wonderful open-source materials that

14:43have been allowed that have been given to us so one of the things that Nicola

14:49and I have continued to do is we still promote the online worlds within SUNY

14:55the SUNY system itself has I think some half million students and we’re part of

15:00the consortiums there what we often do is bring forth our work we still have a

15:07lot of old perceptions that the islands are expensive we have the competition

15:13now in online environments with a lot of a communication tools so it holds us

15:18back sometimes but I think what you’re going to find is the communities that we’ve developed have kept us going what

15:27I have seen though and I think maybe some of you might identify with this there can be disruption bringing in a

15:34new technology like this that really is outside of the learning management systems and sometimes that can cause

15:40issues among faculty themselves you know innovative technologies can be perceived

15:45as being a little threatening but what I want to applaud are the students that I’ve worked with here’s

15:52one student who is a social worker he’s created his own environment and he

15:59brings parents who have been sent over by court-appointed systems and he has a

16:05virtual environment that he’s developed where he can bring parents and social workers and children together in a very

16:11new way and this just is student presenting at a conference we’ve had

16:17other students oh and this happens to be the part of the students Island there

16:24was a key researcher out of England and he decided to make some of his buildings

16:29like the place where the research was done in England and on these slides are the ways you can find these islands and

16:35Kitely we have another student who was working on in culture rating people

16:42coming in from other countries she wanted a safe place for them to come in and explore she created this space this

16:51happens to be a historic setting for Japanese cultural studies

16:58for high school students so we’ve had students who’ve actually created some

17:05work dealing with some of the materials that been made available by artists this

17:11one I think is the last before we go on to the students themselves was a very unique Island that’s just under

17:18development right now we did encourage you to visit these Islands created by a graphic artist and to the left you’re

17:25gonna see the aerial view of his Island and to the right you’ll see one of his actual creations a very interesting

17:32space so being that I’m in the academic and part of what I do is see how my

17:40students work in these spaces some create them this last slide is just students visiting a space I had them

17:48play around pull some artifacts out of their inventory and do some playful

17:53things with them and you just see that this I used to build community and I a recent publication there and it really

18:00could tease out and see that these students themselves really have enjoyed

18:05the process so now to let them speak for themselves I’ll ask I’ll pass the mic

18:11over to al Rotondo and I will try to turn the slides for him but al cue me if

18:16I don’t do them at the right time thank you first slide please the concept began

18:31as an exercise in teaching three-point lighting in a skybox hovering above one

18:40of two Empire State College Islands in Second Life functioning video lights

18:47were developed and once this was achieved I knew that further concepts could be

18:55flushed out in a virtual environment to the next line please Second Life

19:06just opened up their code the recent emergence of the open simulator

19:12environment the one we’re in right now made virtual environments now accessible

19:18to everyone I began to design an implement of fully functioning virtual

19:25learning environment and named it video production world this provides a way for

19:31video production learners to see experience situationally engage and

19:38learn the tools of and techniques of the trade of video production without

19:44leaving home this saves the traditional costs of traveling to learning

19:49conferences and the conference costs of setting up live learning simulations

19:56leveling the playing field for learners of all economic backgrounds next slide

20:02please I created wayfinding kiosks that’ll

20:14located in different parts of the island for easy navigation throughout the island when you click one of the names

20:25it highlights the area on the map and

20:31therefore you know where to go see that particular event and display next slide

20:40please this project was effective in five

20:48distinct areas one harnessing the in world Sun to mimic the real world Sun in

20:57helping teach outdoor lighting techniques through the use of scrims

21:04and reflectors this was the first bit of

21:10physics that we played with myself in a developer that I work with on this and

21:19as I saw that we could control the actual Sun the in World Sun to act as a

21:27real Sun I was really excited and and

21:35and knew that the rest of the physics would fall into place so this was the first of many technical developments to

21:48creating working functioning video lights to teach three-point lighting techniques we had started with some

21:55lights in Second Life but then we further developed them were able to turn

22:02them on and off adjust the intensity of the lights etc next likelies 3 we

22:12achieving in world balance of cameras on booms with counterweights to teach this

22:20type of camera mounting and movement we created two different booms and the

22:28physics of adding weights and in different size weights was just very

22:35very interesting and amazing to do in an in world environment next like leaves

22:44providing an amphitheater to play a variety of video production

22:50instructional videos that I created just for this video production training

22:57environment next slide please

23:02and five recreating a working active TV

23:08studio teaching camera switching techniques mannequins or teaching agents

23:15were used to play the parts of camera people the director and onstage talent

23:22next slide please reviewers of this thesis project had a five choice answer system for their

23:30survey they could express their agreement with terms ranging from strongly agree to

23:35agree to indifferent than disagree and strongly disagree the reviewers were a selection of

23:43novices and existing video professionals analysis of this data indicated that

23:50overall favorable responses were evenly distributed between novices and professionals making video production

23:58world positively received among both types of learners and visitors next

24:05slide please video production world proved that the

24:13physical three-dimensional aspects of video production can be taught in a virtual environment with considerable

24:19success success was achieved in several we’re real-world physical replications

24:25such as control of the in world Sun creating functional and control

24:31controllable video lights and developing real-world weights weight differentials

24:37in a virtual environment thank you and

24:47now we’ll have se Lee talked about her work Thank You al Thank You Eileen well

24:54the virtual world is like the Guy Fawkes mask some see it as inspirational others

25:03view it with fear and distrust is this based on its facelessness technology or

25:11darker fears well I once shared the same prejudice and just to kind of speak on

25:18that before I started my master’s program I would have never set foot in

25:25any virtual world so what I have learned in my studies is that breaking down

25:32those fears to help others see the potential of virtual worlds is not an

25:38easy task

25:50so working as a student I explore aspects of the virtual world using my

25:56island in Kitely multiverse masters I make builds to serve as a meeting place

26:01for gamification of Education simulation testing grounds interactivity playground

26:09games and for educational content for varied ages and levels I convinced the

26:25graduate student collaborative to fund a club Island for presentation displays to

26:30give students a place to practice presenting and a place to meet out of for fellow officers one was already

26:38familiar with virtual worlds one was hostile and aggressively against it and

26:43two had no opinion so I used zoom and

26:57multiple virtual viewers to do live training although I gained support for

27:03the attempt one of the two joining decide the learning curve was too high and the other was open but

27:09non-participatory after the training so if feedback from members was also

27:16mixed with a majority remaining indifferent the college cut funding for the project after only one month of the

27:22island being live this is an example of the need to communicate intensely with

27:29others to overcome these inhibitions concerning this technology I also

27:39presented one of my builds multi-verse moon based masters at the couny gaming

27:45conference in New York City as a proof-of-concept via distance with the

27:50help of my on-site college professor Mark Lewis technology at the conference

27:55did not allow foreign world participation I presented via phone over

28:01a portable speaker as a professor controlled the slides later we had

28:09one-on-one sessions for participants to try out the games designed again the

28:15campus did not allow virtual world connectivity so we used Skype conference

28:23sharing my screen I walked through the gameplay while answering questions this

28:30did not allow for first player interaction however this is an example of how we must work through barriers to

28:38promote the potential virtual worlds offer to help support developers I

28:46create tutorial videos and presentations this one on virtual world design was

28:52presented in world for the Institute of new paradigms I have found the best way to change stigmas and open minds to

29:00these opportunities is to research publish and promote I use videos

29:05presentations websites and blogs to do so I create curriculum supports on where

29:11Polycom and developer supports on multiverse masters blog if you

29:17are interested in making a positive impact on the open sim community then I strongly encourage you to do the same

29:23thank you very much so thank you say Lee and our lovely

29:31participants we’ll be inviting you to their spaces but let’s go over to Cheryl

29:38Moore who has something to tell us about her recent piloted financial space that

29:46she created Thank You Eileen as a student of learning with emerging

29:51technologies at Empire State College I became enamored with designing virtual spaces in dr. O’Connor’s virtual

29:57practicum courses my profession is in financial education as you heard so I

30:03was inspired to create an environment in which people could have fun learning something that otherwise can be

30:10considered boring or stressful on even intimidating which is the the financial education piece so what you’re seeing

30:16here is an aerial view of the shopping center that serves as the backdrop for the financial education I created an

30:24environment named pixelated in which individuals can experience real world practice and have fun and then I

30:32conducted a pilot study to test the environment and examine how to bring financial education into a virtual space

30:39the design is a mixture of realism and simplicity and a little humor sprinkled

30:46throughout so for example there’s a restroom because as we know you know when you’re shopping you you need a

30:52restroom right go ahead and the next site Thank You Ellen as an educator and

30:57instructional designer I follow an approach to financial education that is rooted in the principles that you see

31:03here on the slide and the focus is on behavior and capability you know

31:08inclusion not judgment so having a virtual space in which to learn is exciting because people can practice

31:14without having concern over you know real-world failure and the things that tend to cause that stress and anxiety

31:21around finances for some people and actually using humor and dynamic visuals is a great way as you may know

31:28to put people at ease and establish a safe and fun learning environment this

31:37slide is an example of a shopping list or the shopping list that can be used to

31:43teach budgeting saving and sharing and actually also prioritization of needs

31:48and wants that enables autonomous decision-making so students learners and

31:53the environment would work through this list to accomplish the items and they get to practice several concepts around

32:00financial education that way here you see the credit union and this is where

32:06learners log their transactions in a tool provided free by Brite Bank comm it

32:11simulates a checking saving and even credit card account which provides practice for record-keeping and money

32:18mindfulness which is an important concept this is an example of an

32:23important habit which may not be modeled at home or taught elsewhere and so it can be practiced safely in world and the

32:31users in my study actually really enjoyed using that tool so just to conclude the educational approach

32:38involves these elements that you see on the slide and they’re all very easily achieved in an immersive space so that

32:44really contributes to the appreciation of those spaces for what I do in my professional work and if you’re

32:51interested in learning more about the study you can learn more about the study tomorrow evening I’ll be on at 5:30 or

32:578:30 Eastern Time so I hope to see some of you there and I hope you learn a

33:02little bit more about what happened in that study so thank you ok thank you as

33:10you can see we have wonderful adult students who really bring their own

33:15personal history and interest in as they’ve been designing work and so I hope you will get a chance to speak more

33:22with them visit their Islands and join Cheryl tomorrow evening she had a very productive pilot study but just to kind

33:30of wrap up this part of the presentation with where are we going now as you can

33:36see we’ve got a combination of faculty who work and teach within these spaces using

33:43them in an online forum sometimes for meetings sometimes for as you’ll see in

33:49a moment a residency we’ve been using them in different ways and hope to continue to use them at the same time we

33:55have had some 30 students develop their own spaces over the past couple of years

34:01and again thank you so much to OpenSim to Kitely and to the many generous

34:07artists that have allowed us to do this and what we are seeing though is I’ll

34:13show you a couple of our new ventures we in the mallet program we are 100% online

34:19and we now have a group of wonderful students who’ve graduated or working and

34:26we wanted to consider continue with a quote residency model the school has

34:32such other master’s programs where the people get together geographically and

34:38that’s very nice when you’re together it’s expensive though our main headquarters is out of New York City

34:45it’s very expensive to go in there and so we’re trying to see and it’s been brought into the strategic plan of the

34:52graduate program to look at alternative ways of meeting and so we piloted a

34:58virtual residency and wonderfully al who’s already graduated Sayle who’s

35:05actually still close to finished with her graduation they came and helped

35:12support other newbies coming into this environment so it was a very multi

35:18students in different parts of their own careers and what we are doing is trying

35:25to get more groups involved in these virtual environments but I will tell you

35:31between teaching and I recently became program coordinator with a lot of administrative responsibilities grading

35:38publishing I don’t have time personally to go out and be convincing all faculty

35:44so what we’ve done though among ourselves is created a think-tank and we’re starting to think and I’m

35:50think we can encourage some of you to join us but I’ll show you these last few

35:55things that are helping us take the message forward this was the residency that I mentioned

36:02I’ll show you some of the feedback we got from the residency we ran it to be very similar to a conference and I think

36:10that had its pluses and minuses but there’s a lot of interest within our

36:15program because we’re an emerging technology program in things that are

36:21augmented reality as well we’re looking at 360 cameras so the goal of this conference was to introduce some of

36:28those areas too so we had some classic more like this where you have now we

36:35call them our TED Talks in the background where we introduce some concepts doctor Ilan brought people on a

36:42walking tour which was very well received to some of her Island she does very beautiful work I have a science

36:49background my work is very practical she’s got an art background her work is very elegant and so we went on a walking

36:55tour we got a chance to talk about some of our other courses in media and arts I

37:01run stem courses we talked about those and ended the residency with one of our

37:07instructors talking about some of the game design work he does with unity what

37:14was particularly pleasing to me these were some snapshots from our residency

37:20was that the Dean came as well and faculty members the Dean came launched

37:26the residency explained about the strategic focus we’re trying to get and

37:34starting to see the role of innovation within our graduate program and here are

37:41these are no snapshots of some of the people who were here we have now brought

37:46in people beyond the college so we had founded a very enjoyable time what we

37:53did ask for people to an anonymous way give us feedback so we could improve it

38:00and there were three questions and the first one was how does this how is this differ from a

38:09quote regular conference everybody’s been to conferences and this

38:14was anonymous so they could be honest but again they these are students and alums and people who kind of know us

38:21they were pretty kindly one person did comment is just like any other

38:27conference sit and listen so I didn’t know whether how to interpret that but thought that’s a little bit negative but

38:33they found that it was very engaging in general and I highlighted the leaps and

38:38bounds ahead of a typical webinar or conference calls I’ve heard my students

38:44talk now about how often they literally claim they hate webinars which we have

38:50to see in many different ways what we did ask them was what was interesting to

38:57them we did talk about augmented reality some people were pleased to find out

39:02they could build a world we told them about open source some people really

39:07noticed the fact that it was a community so one person expanded quite a bit about

39:13that we had a walking tour which was very popular I we have to remember

39:21though to walk slowly enough the tour in person lost some people but we did find

39:26that you know people enjoyed that opportunity to actually walk around and they want to know how could we improve

39:33this now I will have to say I wish we had the support and time that this

39:40lovely conference has been run around we didn’t and you’ll see in some of the

39:47comments they really wanted better organization they wanted us to you know

39:54scaffold them into the environment more there were some very good ideas about

39:59having two speakers somebody who speaks and somebody who watches the chat so he

40:05got some very good productive ideas none of which really whether they would be

40:11excuse me within the realm of durability provided that we had more staff to help

40:17us go through these but we continued on using these meetings

40:24we have our students now present when they do their final projects we recently

40:30had people presenting about their final projects which we tried a different

40:35format this time where we had a quote poster session it worked and didn’t work

40:41the students brought their work we put them out in posters and the students

40:46stayed there as people came around to discuss what was going on in the

40:51different projects we had microphone problems that more came from the fact

40:57that some of the students hadn’t prepared in advance of their mics didn’t work right and another problem for me I

41:04had put the posters a little bit too close to each other we had sound overlap so I think there are ways we can improve

41:11but the concept of going around and seeing the posters of different people’s work has seemed to work I think we need

41:18to polish it up a bit but in terms of polishing what I had observed was we’ve

41:25had a lot of wonderful students come through I still continue with these

41:30students Elle has graduated two years back he still is kind enough to come

41:35back we started something that we’ve called the Institute for new paradigms and it’s to be a think-tank we’re still

41:43thinking through what our think tank will be we’ve had meetings on a monthly

41:49basis since last spring we’ve had enough interest to really say that this is an

41:54idea to pursue and what we did was buy

42:00by the summer when the summer started I took a poll of people’s interests and

42:06based on the poll which was through a Google Form we started breaking this down into an

42:14executive group and also into a research group and those are the planning pieces

42:21now so far we haven’t gotten as far as I would like in terms of passing over some

42:26of the management I still do most of it myself which is got a little challenging

42:32when I had pick up an extra roll among the six weeks ago when somebody got promoted up

42:37and I had to pick up a lot more administrative work but we do have a faithful group that comes to these

42:43meetings we want to invite others I think we’re close to being well enough

42:49to invite others we’re very much still more of a professional development than

42:55research oriented think-tank we’ve been sharing ideas we’ve another students

43:01working with me we Co published something just a week ago just turned in

43:06all the paperwork so what we’re doing is what we hope some day to give spielberg

43:12to run for the money we’re going to be having that threaded environment where we work sometimes virtually in an

43:20immersive space maybe someday when we do get the the headsets in 3d here we can

43:25do that as well but we’re finding that this environment does allow us to

43:32continue to work together and just a couple more wrap-up slides where what we

43:39did ask the the Institute members themselves who really were a core of

43:45people that I’ve known and worked with over the past number of years and we’ve invited some guests a Selby might be

43:51here with us Selby has been wonderful in helping us but last June we asked what

43:57is it you’d like to know more about you know so these are progressive thinkers this these slides I’ll make available if

44:04anyone wants to read the fine detail but you’ll see that people are looking to things like 360 cameras augmented

44:11reality they’re wanting to know more about web world so all of this new dimension that’s coming in and that’s

44:20something that this group really would like to learn more about and we’re period we’re starting to line up

44:27speakers we’re starting to look logistical ëhow we can focus in the number of areas at once the other thing

44:33that came through on that survey in June was that the 12 people who did respond to this question said they would like to

44:41continue with research now I’ve made that the

44:46and I knew that if I just said yes or no they would not want to say no directly to me so I asked them would they want to

44:52be part of this or maybe in the future so that was a polite way to say no I’m not interested or at least not

44:58interested now but we had almost 90 percent interested in kind of continuing

45:04on with the you know kind of future research into these areas so as we

45:10formulate a little more of where we’re going with these next steps in summary

45:17I’m finding that this interest recently

45:22in augmented reality which is coming into a lot of the groups within which I work is really starting to drive us to

45:31to be able to open more conversations and I think we’re looking to see how we

45:40can leverage this going forward and also what we’re seeing is that to really continue this though we need some kind

45:47of sustained professional growth not just for people like the folks on the stage here who will do this on their own

45:54but to get more faculty involved things I would love if we could have a nice web-based interface I understand though

46:01that the technology is too robust to probably be web served for a while but I

46:08was delighted to hear this morning that we might be getting 3d headset 3d

46:13interface sooner than I had anticipated um but I think that and this is

46:19something kitely’s working on we can get more pre-designed Islands ahead to institutions I think

46:25they can start jumping on board faster so I think you know we’re all living

46:31proof here at this conference that there are many ways we can use these two into

46:36to meet and to talk I’m still interested in understanding how we can kind of

46:42create a conceptual framework for what I’m calling immersion which is something

46:47we do here but something that some of these other 3d environments are allowing us to get into so I’ll stop at that and

46:55thank you all for listening to very much a lecture but I’m hoping maybe we’ve inspired some

47:01questions and maybe you’ll continue to join us because we would very much like to have you come with us so thank you

47:13Thank You Eileen and thank you to to all our panelists are there any questions

47:20from the audience we’re getting late in the day and everyone’s getting ready to party you

47:26know well I want to thank our panelists and I’m watching the chat oh I see one

47:33coming in Buffy says really great presentation and congrats on getting your Dean to attend that’s that’s like a

47:41minor miracle right when I had a

47:46champion when I started my program with the 52 university classes our vice

47:52president of academic affairs and and he came out into world then our president

47:58for a while Mary Jane Paulson also came out into world so I was very impressed with that let’s see we do have a

48:06question from lisanna wisdom seeker how can I get your online tutorials I will

48:13gladly as a matter of fact I have to hold my phone because I had I have to

48:19use Skype on my phone I will type e tutorials the link there all right now out on Google Sites and I have anything

48:27from just the basic walk around to how to build and so I will put the link here

48:32and gladly share them and I think a question went by too would any of these students want to work with OpenSim

48:40people and I will pretty much speak for them but I think they would be delighted to and if you could contact me or some

48:48of the students directly I think you’re going to find that and when our Institute meets again on Monday night I

48:56will bring that forward I think they would depending on where they stand in their career and their their you know

49:03also adults working they also are pursuing a masters but I think in theory they would love to continue to work with

49:10others so yes I would say that’s a very possible area and we’ll make some

49:16contacts there oh and say Lee by the way is she I’m you

49:22know 101 virtual world say Lee is the advanced course she has created many

49:29wonderful tutorials too with non plane characters she teaches all about

49:34scripting so I can teach you how to do the nuts and bolts put the buildings down she can teach you how to really go

49:40in an advanced way so please do keep up with us thanks Eileen and Lisa Laxton

49:48had a question do you have a wish list for what you need technology wise mmm

49:56well I wish all of my students who are at a distance could have robust

50:01technologies themselves they could have powerful computers good internet what I would like I mean if I really just could

50:08have my druthers a web-based interface so I don’t have to go through the challenge of getting people signed on

50:14the other problem I’m having if people work from home they can generally sign on if they’re trying to come in from a

50:20school or an institution downloading firestorm is a real problem they often

50:26have locks down I have some of the new Macs right now we’re not being able to download firestorm we’re working on that

50:32I am my own tech support and I’m not smart enough to know all the combinations so I would like to have an

50:39easier interface to download also it would be nice to have the 3d environment

50:44there will always be a learning curve in terms of how you get your avatar to walk and talk so I that will always be there

50:50but an easier way to get in would be very nice it looks like one Ganesa

51:03link and it did not work for him so we’ll have to run that down later yeah

51:09what about putting the HTTP in in front of it that might well okay and let me

51:14I’m trying to put my phone down and get the link to some of my tutorials as well

51:22because I think we will and we’ll be sure that you folks do know how to reach out to us

51:29if you’re interested in finding out more about some of the islands we’ve created

51:35the power point it’s excuse me well the power point that prompted the slides

51:40actually has the names of all of the islands and Kitely if anyone wants to

51:45come and visit the work that these wonderful students have done and I’m sure they would be quite delighted to be

51:53able to continue on and we had one more question as we wrap up Rhiannon asks how

52:00can we go about becoming part of the Institute or participating in the think tank just send the email and my email is

52:12just my name it’s Eileen e IL e en dot o

52:17connor o co and n o R and at ESC edu

52:27typing it in and we will be glad to put

52:33you on our mailing list which leaves you the option of joining us or not but we can keep you apprised of what we’re

52:40doing and we we need some thinkers to help us think and we have very good

52:46professional development process going we have meetings we are developing a collegial support but I think we need

52:53more of a framework to so we’ll put you to work

52:58Thank You Eileen and thanks to our panelists what a terrific presentation as a reminder to our audience you can

53:05see what’s coming up on the conference schedule at conference simulator org next we’re gonna have a social event so

53:12stay tuned for that and Rihanna is gonna have some closing remarks tomorrow oh did you want to cut

53:19in tomorrow the first session will begin at 7 a.m. in this keynote region and it

53:25is entitled virtual machine’ viewers enable open seminar Act access on mobile

53:31devices by Tulane also we encourage you to visit the OSC c18 poster Expo in the

53:38Oh SCC Expo 3 region 2 find accompanying information on presentations and explore the hyper grid

53:45tour resources in OS CC export to region along with the sponsor and crowdfunder

53:52booths located throughout all of the expo regions thank you again to our speakers and to the audience over to you

53:59Rhiannon great ok I think I’m unmuted

54:06can you guys hear me I think so so yes thank you everybody for for being here

54:11today the first day of our two-day conference and you know it’s been great

54:18for us to you so far as Lear was saying

54:23at 6:15 so gives you a few minutes to get there grab a drink if you’re still

54:29want to hang out socialize and network with any of the folks that you that you’ve been with today that you’ve been

54:34interacting with we are having a music showcase that is on the OS CC music

54:40stage region so if you just open up your map and type o SCC you’ll see all the

54:46regions that are listed o SCC and just look from UCC music stage there’s also some signs around these regions near the

54:55info science as a signs that have just been put down during this presentation and in the landing zones that will give

55:02you a landmark to go directly there so it’s open ones up on the stage it’s about to jump up in front of me I guess

55:09so yes please join us there if you want

55:14to kind of chat and with your fellow attendees as well again as Lyra said

55:21meet us again at 7 a.m. I also wanted to encourage folks there’s this goes to the

55:27speakers and this also goes to many of you in the audience and I’m gonna grab a URL for it but we have several social

55:35events and that and community events that are scheduled that besides the one

55:43that we’re organizing tonight there are many community and social events that are being organized by other

55:50speakers and community folks would then open simulator other users so if you would

55:58like to host your own and it could be as simple as if your speaker meet up in your in your region or for folks to to

56:06see your work or or if you want to host

56:12a tour of your build if it’s or whatever resources that you might have or a music

56:18or social event you can go to conference that open simulator slash 2018 slash

56:28community – event – signup slash so it’s

56:33in the it’s in the D chat so and just submit an event and we’ll get it up on the schedule and that does not have to

56:40be just for today and tomorrow we will continue to keep listing them probably

56:45up till Christmas so your grid as a holiday party or you want to host a tour

56:50next week once the dust clears from this weekend that is fine to just get that to

56:55us and we’ll put it up and it’ll be kind of a nice central resource for the next couple weeks for folks who might want to

57:01share off their work for everybody who’s attended the event so with that thank

57:08you again – to all the presenters and all the attendees and especially our

57:16crowd funder folks and and andand the sponsors as well who this wouldn’t be

57:22responsible for and the many volunteers and staff you’ll see them wandering

57:27around with the OS CC staff group some who have worked literally tirelessly and

57:34so and again this is all kind of gratis

57:41in that way any most be the money that we comes from this kind of keeps the

57:46wheels rolling to keep having these events with hosting and tools and paying

57:53grid admin and that’s about it so and other resources like that so

58:00myself and my avek on team thank you as well and hope to see you guys tomorrow

58:07at 7:00 a.m.

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